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  1. Marie on November 16, 2019 at 11:37 am

    I definitely identify with your post concerning politics. In fact, I could not vote for Trump or Hillary last election because they both made my stomach churn and I couldn’t get clear direction from the Lord. So, I only voted in my local elections. I would like to know how you interpret the scripture about us (Christians) being citizens of another realm and only ambassadors here on earth. I know in the human realm, as an ambassador to another country, you get extra privileges but (I believe) you do not get to vote. This has concerned me as a child of the kingdom….will there come a time, or is it already time…to abstain from the affairs of this world that are so tainted by the enemy? I respect your thoughts on this – if you have time. I do understand if you don’t. Thank you!

    • Jeff on November 19, 2019 at 1:50 pm

      Marie, thanks for commenting for your first time. You pose valid questions. It may be unpopular, but I definitely foresee a time when I could opt out of the entire national/state voting process simply because no candidate could make it through the gate of my Spirit-directed conscience. For me, as I mention in the blog, that decisive issue is abortion. I have made an internal commitment never to vote for a candidate that is pro-abortion. With the direction things are heading in our nation, this scenario is not a stretch of the imagination. As for your questions about the tension between heavenly citizenship and a national citizenship on earth, that will be a good topic for a full blog that I may try to tackle in 2020. Thanks for responding!

      • Marie Swofford on November 20, 2019 at 10:47 am

        Thank you for responding, Pastor! I also could never vote for anyone who is pro-abortion. I look forward to your blog on our heavenly citizenship!

  2. Doug Lyle on November 15, 2019 at 2:45 pm

    We are in agreement as to which Kingdom trumps (pun intended) the other. That said, the demise of America will not just be one Party winning and the other losing. Think Venezuela. Think Hong Kong. Over 300 million people in bloody chaos. Many say it could never happen here. Many are wrong and it’s the bloody chaos that I want to see stopped. I will likely escape it through death but my children whom I love will not. The thought of you, Amy, Alicia, Landon, your sisters et al suffering the horrors of Communism is just horrible. Hundreds of millions have been murdered by Communist governments. This is why I wrote my initial comment.

  3. Doug Lyle on November 14, 2019 at 4:37 pm

    I want to make a generationally shaped comment. I fully agree with you, Jeff, that true revival is our only real hope. That said, my 74 year old eyes see that the lion’s paw of Communism has dug it’s claws into the Democrat party. This has huge implications for lives far younger than I. Should these Communists gain full control of our government, the America that we’ve known will disappear irretrievably. It will no longer be the land of the free. It will be the land of the controlled and oppressed. Stopping this from becoming everyone’s new reality is worth fighting for. We should not think what we are seeing in Washington is merely politics as usual. What we are seeing is an all out attack on our lives and, most importantly, on the lives of your children and on my grandchildren and great grandchildren. That attack is worth resisting. At least this old man sees it that way.

    • Jeff Lyle on November 14, 2019 at 7:07 pm

      Clearly, as I said in the blog post, there are definitive practical ramifications in our politics. My point is not that we should not care and remain politically engaged. My point is that the weight of the Kingdom is our fullest hope and the lesser weight of politics seems to be disproportionately elevated in the emotions, words and actions of many believers. The amount of energy and distraction that is being hijacked by the political chaos in the lives of Christians exposes the reality that many believers place far more functional trust in government than God. The United States of America has an eventual expiration date. It’s a temporary kingdom. It is the greatest on earth at this time, but it is inferior to the Kingdom that holds our primary citizenship. The USA will not go on forever. Maybe it’s expiration date is in my generation. Maybe it’s my children or grandchildren’s. My identity and hope doesn’t diminish at all if that moment occurs in my life. It might actually lead to the greatest revival that this nation has ever seen if the current system implodes. The great reality is that no political philosophy/agenda offers permanent hope. It is not an issue of me or anyone who agrees with me being fatalistic. It’s theologically accurate to affirm that politics are an unworthy place for our confidence. We fulfill our civic responsibility in submission to the requirements of our Kingdom loyalties. We are commanded to honor those in authority as being established in their positions by God for His sovereign purposes (Romans 13:7; 1 Peter 2:17). We are commanded to walk in love, grace, kindness, forgiveness and truth. We are commanded to pray for our enemies. We are commanded to do all things without complaining or arguing (Philippians 2:14). We are commanded to live in faith and not fear. The list goes on and on about how Christians are to conduct themselves in a culture that is opposed to our faith in King Jesus. What I am seeing is a clear compromise (if not a wholesale abandonment) of Christian virtues on the altar of political ideologies. Capitalism, socialism or communism…all of it perishes. Christians are not theoretical citizens of a different realm – our citizenship is ACTUAL, with everlasting ramifications. I can work positively within the faulty political system while disallowing it from negatively working inside of me. None of this is easy for us. I’m merely submitting that Christians need to think hard about the state of our own hearts as it pertains to politics. When our political grievances are more real to us than our Gospel joys, we have erred. We need to ensure that American politics do not occupy more space in our hearts and minds than they should.

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